Source: http://www.legaljobscentre.com/career-tips/38479/details.aspx
A recent initiative spearheaded by City law firm Norton Rose - which has recently merged with Deacons - is once again shining the limelight on whether or not a glass ceiling exists for female lawyers.
The firm recently announced that it had overhauled its diversity committee and was preparing to introduce a program to boost partnership opportunities for female lawyers. The committee - due to meet in November - will discuss potential initiatives and a series of measures to improve partnership prospects for female associates, including one-on-one discussions to review next steps in career progression for female lawyers, learning and development programmes, and a potential review of the firm's lateral hiring process.
Yan Lan, partner and chief representative at Gide Loyrette Nouel Beijing)
The fact that a firm has so publicly acknowledged the need to focus on boosting opportunities for female lawyers to reach partnership, in itself suggests that there is still work to be done for partnership paths to be on par for both sexes.
According to Yan Lan, partner and chief representative at Gide Loyrette Nouel (Beijing), there is definitely evidences of a glass ceiling for female lawyers in Asia - despite the fact that females account for more than 50% of students in law schools.
"I don't think this is a problem exclusive to law firms as there are less women in the upper levels of many professions. But unfortunately, the career advancement of women in law, regardless of their education and experience, is often impeded by informal barriers," she said.
"These informal barriers, or glass ceilings, are not limited by geography. Many female law students often prefer to go into administration or in-house counsel positions rather than law firms. This is because they think that there are few opportunities for progression to partnership as there are so few females in those positions. In addition, I have been told that in certain remote areas in China, male clients do not like to deal with female lawyers due to traditional attitudes. So, the combination of traditional prejudices and a lack of motivation amongst women lawyers makes for a discouraging situation."
Janet Hui, a partner at Jun He agrees that traditional views in Asia are one of the barriers making women's path to partnership more difficult.
"I think one of the reasons for the smaller number of women partners is definitely tradition," she said.
"In Chinese law firms it is still easier for men to climb up the ladder. This could be due to the fact that in the past and now in business circles, senior management is usually male, so it is easier for the male partners to get business. Also traditionally in China and in the Western world as well, there is a concept that the male is usually the senior, more competent one. However, I think things are changing lately and people are starting to recognise that for work that does not involve manual labour, the capability of the female is not less than the male."
However, Hui adds that the disparity between the numbers of female partners compared to male can also be attributed to the biological nature of things and the crossroads at which women lawyers must make a choice. This is incidentally also one of the biggest challenges that they face on the path to partnership.
"In my view, the major challenge for female lawyers is how to balance family and work. The legal industry is very demanding - you have to work very long hours and if you work on overseas deals, the time difference means you have to work around the clock and often travel a lot for work. Mothers traditionally are still expected to pick the kids up from school, organise around school holidays and also attend to their [children's] daily needs. At the same time the legal industry is a tough one, so this is difficult and it is a big challenge," she said.
"Also, normally when you reach around seven years' experience there is a possible partnership check, but for female lawyers, often that's also right about the time to get married and have children. And whilst you can rely on your parents, spouse and family, you still have to spend time with your child, so it is quite hard to find a balance."
However, it is possible to have both, as evidenced by her career progression. Hui worked as an in-house lawyer for six years while her children were very young but then joined Jun He in 2004, where she is a partner and telecommunication specialist, also practicing in foreign direct investment, M&A, overseas listing, infrastructure, internet, IP and general corporate commercial practice.
Whatever the reality - glass ceiling or not - successful female partners such as Hui and Yan Lan are proof that partnership for female associates is attainable if they make that goal their priority and are determined enough to overcome the obstacles that may arise along their path to partnership.
"When I joined GLN in 1991, which was then a very traditional French law firm, there were no women partners. I was very surprised by this and I went directly to talk to the managing partner at that time and asked him why there were no women partners. His answer was that, generally speaking, women lawyers were excellent and competent but after their marriage, they needed (and wanted) to take time out from their careers to care for their families," she said.
"My response was a Chinese saying - that "women hold half the sky" - and my education had shown me that if women can demonstrate they are as competent as men, then they should be given equal opportunities to be promoted. Fortunately the managing partner told me that he was ready to change his mind and after seven years, I became the first foreign female worldwide partner in Paris."
She adds that the major challenge for many women is the fear and feelings of inadequacy, but she says that this is something women with their eyes on partnership must overcome and conquer.
"I think that your biggest enemy is yourself. Many women underestimate themselves but with confidence in yourself and devotion to your work anything is possible. Of course, you also have to organise things efficiently between your work life and your private life; but do not think that you cannot be a partner because you are a woman. Develop confidence in dealing with your work, your clients and your colleagues and develop your legal skills."
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
"The stress of being a female lawyer"
Taken from The Times July 30, 2009
Link: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article6732234.ece
The stress of being a female lawyer
As a verdict of suicide is recorded on a top woman City lawyer, a female in the profession reveals the intense burdens
Vanessa Lloyd Platt
Like others within the legal profession I was very sad to have read the tragic story of Catherine Bailey, a partner at a leading City law firm about whom an inquest recorded a verdict of suicide. Having practised as a divorce lawyer for 30 years I have seen many changes within the legal profession, with increasing pressure put on women, and I have suffered from it at times throughout my career — much more than my friends in other professions.
Like Bailey I too have children (now aged 29 and 27) and was faced, when they were younger, with a balancing act that would have floored a man at the first hurdle.
It is little wonder to me that the levels of alcoholism and addiction among lawyers has climbed steadily over the past few years with helplines jammed with distressed lawyers, particularly women. While women in other professions may face similar difficulties, what is unique to the legal profession is the intense costs targets that involve long working hours and competitive strategies. We have all seen films that emphasise those pressures such as The Firm. These targets are not just the stuff of fiction but are a reality — particularly during the recession in which some of the biggest legal firms in the world have collapsed and senior management have been ousted. It is little wonder that the buzzword around legal offices is “fear”.
The first overwhelming burden that faces a young legal mother is the question of when she goes back to work again and whether she will be downgraded according to the time she takes off. In a still predominantly men-orientated world, male lawyers seem to resent the time that women have off for maternity leave, many complaining of what they perceive as holding the fort after a woman’s decision to become pregnant. Many women complain that on their return to the legal profession, they are expected to work at twice the pace to make up for the time off, which puts inordinate pressure on them when they are trying to develop a sensible working pattern and balance.
A high-flier no one envied
Some complain that they are deliberately booked in to do long conferences with counsel when they do return, which begin late in the day, just to test how uncomfortable this can make them. So at a time when they are adjusting to balancing coming home to see the baby after a long day of absence, and take over from the au pair, nanny or family member, they are forced to work late and miss seeing their child before bedtime.
This is when the pattern of guilt sets in. Like nearly every legal mother I know, I spent my children’s entire childhood wrapped in remorse that I was neglecting their needs. My son still brings up the day I arrived too late to hear his tuba debut at the school concert because of a needy client who would not get off the telephone.
The feeling of sinking desperation on days such as these is all encompassing. What stopped me from quitting? I had worked too hard to get there. Women lawyers in particular have complained over the years that they have had to work far harder within the legal profession than their male counterparts to make their mark. Just at the point of success, they have to choose between career and family. It takes you a certain number of years to build up to success, which always coincides with child-bearing years.
The other reason for not quitting is that part of being a good lawyer is being a Type A personality, which involves competitiveness and obstinancy and, in turn, keeps you in a profession that can drive you insane. And we are perfectionists too. So we impose our own pressures — to be the best lawyer, best mother, best housekeeper, best wife, best friend and best colleague. It is precisely this quality that propels female lawyers up the ladder of success but pushes them off when they try to overachieve in every other part of their lives. Add postnatal depression to the mix and it can prove fatal.
It’s perhaps unsurprising that many colleagues have high-flying partners, who can then become childlike and aggressive when competing for their spouse’s affection. One friend recalls that when she had their first child and went back to work, her husband, a well-paid accountant, started behaving like a teenager. Every night, just at the moment she was about to breastfeed, he demanded dinner, or that she find some papers she had tidied away. “I feel that I have lost a husband and gained another infant,” she cried one night.
Added to that can be the demand by male partners that their own career needs must be met, such as a pressure to cook dinner or entertain. The stories of what women lawyers do to multitask are legion: I will never forget witnessing a colleague, the head of a matrimonial department, as she pushed the pram with her foot while dictating answers to a multimillion-pound questionnaire because her nanny had left without warning. Or a good friend, who was a partner in a mergers and acquisitions firm, who told me that she had spent the day dabbing calamine lotion on her three children’s chicken pox while taking instructions from her biggest client in Hong Kong. I have lost count of the amount of women lawyers I know who breastfed while dictating substantial legal documents.
Many women lawyers laugh in the Robing Room about how they deal with their husbands’ getting frisky after they have been on the go for some 18 hours. One recently told me that just as she forced herself to “get in the mood”, she received a BlackBerry message from her boss reminding her to complete the detailed document required for the 8am meeting the next day. “It sort of killed the moment,” she said.
During the recession, the pressures on female lawyers have been made even greater because of the increase in many of their husbands or partners being made redundant. Many friends and colleagues have become the sole breadwinner, and still have to try to encourage and commiserate with their partner. Furthermore, many of their partners have become depressed and have done nothing around the home to help, which has built resentment and rows have ensued. Accordingly, the mother who might have been considering working part-time to be with her new family, cannot now as she has to work to provide money for the family.
For the older woman lawyer, there is a fear in this climate that she will be “put out to graze” and made redundant. So the pressures on her when her husband is talking about his retirement are all the greater. For divorce lawyers and those who specialise in a high level of intense time limits, the feelings of panic and pressure are enormous. Divorce lawyers also have to take on board huge levels of emotional distress from their clients and if they do not find a suitable outlet in sport or hobbies, then the pressure can become too much.
So is there a solution? Yes there is. It took me a long while to understand the importance of finding “me” time, but without it there is no quality of life and everyone suffers. I have learnt to say no, to take time out and to prioritise my family. It’s a lesson that came not a moment too soon — and many learn too late.
© Vanessa Lloyd Platt 2009
Link: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article6732234.ece
The stress of being a female lawyer
As a verdict of suicide is recorded on a top woman City lawyer, a female in the profession reveals the intense burdens
Vanessa Lloyd Platt
Like others within the legal profession I was very sad to have read the tragic story of Catherine Bailey, a partner at a leading City law firm about whom an inquest recorded a verdict of suicide. Having practised as a divorce lawyer for 30 years I have seen many changes within the legal profession, with increasing pressure put on women, and I have suffered from it at times throughout my career — much more than my friends in other professions.
Like Bailey I too have children (now aged 29 and 27) and was faced, when they were younger, with a balancing act that would have floored a man at the first hurdle.
It is little wonder to me that the levels of alcoholism and addiction among lawyers has climbed steadily over the past few years with helplines jammed with distressed lawyers, particularly women. While women in other professions may face similar difficulties, what is unique to the legal profession is the intense costs targets that involve long working hours and competitive strategies. We have all seen films that emphasise those pressures such as The Firm. These targets are not just the stuff of fiction but are a reality — particularly during the recession in which some of the biggest legal firms in the world have collapsed and senior management have been ousted. It is little wonder that the buzzword around legal offices is “fear”.
The first overwhelming burden that faces a young legal mother is the question of when she goes back to work again and whether she will be downgraded according to the time she takes off. In a still predominantly men-orientated world, male lawyers seem to resent the time that women have off for maternity leave, many complaining of what they perceive as holding the fort after a woman’s decision to become pregnant. Many women complain that on their return to the legal profession, they are expected to work at twice the pace to make up for the time off, which puts inordinate pressure on them when they are trying to develop a sensible working pattern and balance.
A high-flier no one envied
Some complain that they are deliberately booked in to do long conferences with counsel when they do return, which begin late in the day, just to test how uncomfortable this can make them. So at a time when they are adjusting to balancing coming home to see the baby after a long day of absence, and take over from the au pair, nanny or family member, they are forced to work late and miss seeing their child before bedtime.
This is when the pattern of guilt sets in. Like nearly every legal mother I know, I spent my children’s entire childhood wrapped in remorse that I was neglecting their needs. My son still brings up the day I arrived too late to hear his tuba debut at the school concert because of a needy client who would not get off the telephone.
The feeling of sinking desperation on days such as these is all encompassing. What stopped me from quitting? I had worked too hard to get there. Women lawyers in particular have complained over the years that they have had to work far harder within the legal profession than their male counterparts to make their mark. Just at the point of success, they have to choose between career and family. It takes you a certain number of years to build up to success, which always coincides with child-bearing years.
The other reason for not quitting is that part of being a good lawyer is being a Type A personality, which involves competitiveness and obstinancy and, in turn, keeps you in a profession that can drive you insane. And we are perfectionists too. So we impose our own pressures — to be the best lawyer, best mother, best housekeeper, best wife, best friend and best colleague. It is precisely this quality that propels female lawyers up the ladder of success but pushes them off when they try to overachieve in every other part of their lives. Add postnatal depression to the mix and it can prove fatal.
It’s perhaps unsurprising that many colleagues have high-flying partners, who can then become childlike and aggressive when competing for their spouse’s affection. One friend recalls that when she had their first child and went back to work, her husband, a well-paid accountant, started behaving like a teenager. Every night, just at the moment she was about to breastfeed, he demanded dinner, or that she find some papers she had tidied away. “I feel that I have lost a husband and gained another infant,” she cried one night.
Added to that can be the demand by male partners that their own career needs must be met, such as a pressure to cook dinner or entertain. The stories of what women lawyers do to multitask are legion: I will never forget witnessing a colleague, the head of a matrimonial department, as she pushed the pram with her foot while dictating answers to a multimillion-pound questionnaire because her nanny had left without warning. Or a good friend, who was a partner in a mergers and acquisitions firm, who told me that she had spent the day dabbing calamine lotion on her three children’s chicken pox while taking instructions from her biggest client in Hong Kong. I have lost count of the amount of women lawyers I know who breastfed while dictating substantial legal documents.
Many women lawyers laugh in the Robing Room about how they deal with their husbands’ getting frisky after they have been on the go for some 18 hours. One recently told me that just as she forced herself to “get in the mood”, she received a BlackBerry message from her boss reminding her to complete the detailed document required for the 8am meeting the next day. “It sort of killed the moment,” she said.
During the recession, the pressures on female lawyers have been made even greater because of the increase in many of their husbands or partners being made redundant. Many friends and colleagues have become the sole breadwinner, and still have to try to encourage and commiserate with their partner. Furthermore, many of their partners have become depressed and have done nothing around the home to help, which has built resentment and rows have ensued. Accordingly, the mother who might have been considering working part-time to be with her new family, cannot now as she has to work to provide money for the family.
For the older woman lawyer, there is a fear in this climate that she will be “put out to graze” and made redundant. So the pressures on her when her husband is talking about his retirement are all the greater. For divorce lawyers and those who specialise in a high level of intense time limits, the feelings of panic and pressure are enormous. Divorce lawyers also have to take on board huge levels of emotional distress from their clients and if they do not find a suitable outlet in sport or hobbies, then the pressure can become too much.
So is there a solution? Yes there is. It took me a long while to understand the importance of finding “me” time, but without it there is no quality of life and everyone suffers. I have learnt to say no, to take time out and to prioritise my family. It’s a lesson that came not a moment too soon — and many learn too late.
© Vanessa Lloyd Platt 2009
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Executive Committee 2009
Seated (L to R):
Ms Foo Yet Ngo (Vice President)- ynfoo@pd.jaring.my
Ms Vicky Alahakone (President)- vickyaa@streamyx.com
Standing (L to R):
Goh Siu Lin (Committee member)- siulin@shooklin.com.my
Pushpa Ratnam (Secretary)- pushparatnam@hotmail.com
Meera Samanther (Committee member)- meera_samanther@yahoo.com
Kiran Dhaliwal (Committee member)- dhaliwalkiran@yahoo.com
Absent: Ms Jane Pragasam (Treasurer)- jane@hnplaw.com
Thursday, July 30, 2009
MISSION:
1.1 The Association of Women Lawyers is responsible for the promotion of the rights, welfare and professional development of women lawyers and law graduates in Malaysia.
1.2 It is an organisation to eliminate discrimination and ensure full and equal participation of women lawyers and law graduates in the legal and related fields.
2. The Association of Women Lawyers aims to ensure the attainment and full enjoyment of all rights for women from all walks of life based on principles of substantive equality.
3. The Association of Women Lawyers aims to advance justice for all individuals.
1.2 It is an organisation to eliminate discrimination and ensure full and equal participation of women lawyers and law graduates in the legal and related fields.
2. The Association of Women Lawyers aims to ensure the attainment and full enjoyment of all rights for women from all walks of life based on principles of substantive equality.
3. The Association of Women Lawyers aims to advance justice for all individuals.
OBJECTIVES:
1. To promote and increase the participation of women in all levels of judicial, legal and public institutions.
2. To provide education, gender sensitization and awareness in legal and related fields.
3. To monitor laws, legislation, policies and practice directions and to advocate reforms that ensure promotion of equality and eradication of all forms of discrimination against women.
4. To promote the adoption and implementation of international human rights standards, principles and norms.
5. To collaborate nationally, regionally and internationally with interested groups that share similar aims and objectives.
6. To liaise with other Women Lawyers Groups at the national, regional and international levels.
7. To provide a professional and social network for women lawyers and law graduates in Malaysia.
2. To provide education, gender sensitization and awareness in legal and related fields.
3. To monitor laws, legislation, policies and practice directions and to advocate reforms that ensure promotion of equality and eradication of all forms of discrimination against women.
4. To promote the adoption and implementation of international human rights standards, principles and norms.
5. To collaborate nationally, regionally and internationally with interested groups that share similar aims and objectives.
6. To liaise with other Women Lawyers Groups at the national, regional and international levels.
7. To provide a professional and social network for women lawyers and law graduates in Malaysia.
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